Got our New "Camper Van" Motorhome

 

Here is our 2024 Thor Sequence.  Not ready to give in-depth pictures yet, but that will come.  I am trying to figure out all the electronics, those that are in the "driving" of it, and those that are in the "living" in it.

General RV Center is the nation's largest family owned RV dealer.  The are a huge seller of Thor RVs, but also brands.  They have five Florida locations in Fort Pierce Jacksonville, Ocala, Orlando, and Tampa.  Also located in Huntley, Illinois, Salisbury, North Carolina, North Canton, Ohio, Elizabethtown and West Chester, Pennsylvania, Salt Lake City and South Weber, Utah and Richmond, Virginia.

Thor Industries, Inc. is an American manufacturer of RVs through its subsidiary brands including Airstream, Heartland RV, Jayco, Livin Lite RV, and many others, along with, of course, the name of Thor.  The Thor Family of companies are the largest manufacturer of RVs.

As with ALL RVs and RV Dealers, there are good reviews and bad reviews.  The key for us was that when we went to visit back in February just to "see" if Marcia could get into a van easier than the Dynamax that we had back then.  Had they not just sold a used Thor Tellaro, made before the pandemic, we probably would have put a down payment on that...but it was sold.  So we stuck to our "just want to get into one and check them out" plan, and left thinking I would come back within a week and drive one and see if we could spring a deal.  They assigned Monique to be our sales representative, and immediately we felt a bit of a connection.  Not pushy, very accommodating, always a straight shooter with us.  Right away we realized that trading our old motorhome in was going to be problematic...and then I saw a new Doctor pertaining to my knees and realized that if we bought one, we would not be able to really go anywhere for half a year...so why buy one and then let it sit around???

Fast forward to June.  We had already donated our old motorhome to help a Veterans Organization...if we were going to give it away as a trade in, might as well give it away and help someone by doing so...a win win for all.  After keeping an eye on many dealers and many Camper Vans, I came upon one being sold in Stanford Florida at an "un-named" dealer that I really did not want to deal with, for $15K less than being sold for in Tampa.  I called Monique and she said, "I think we will match that price..."  And they did.  Had we only financed the Camper Van through them, it all would have gone smoothly...but I had developed a relationship with a Credit Union and they had a Interest Rate a 1/4 percent lower.  Since we are paying it off in 3-5 years (it is a 5 year loan that we got) the 1/4 percent does not amount to much more than $100 per year.  THAT is when the two reputable businesses started standing their ground causing undo hardship on us.  I put much of that blame on General RV Center for 'doubting' that this Credit Union, with over 2 Billion in assets, would not send them a check once all the paper work was in order.  Through all of this, Monique did a wonderful job, going above and beyond what she needed to do as a sales person.  Well, that is all water under the bridge now...it is time to learn all about this one, and deal with any issues that might arise, and enjoy the new Camper Van as we adjust to the smaller space.  We both agree that it is a very smooth ride.

The picture above is the Camper Van parked at the RV Storage next door to our condo.  Last night it stayed in one of the visitor spaces next to our parking space, and it just fit without sticking out in the street at all. 

So Close to Getting New Motorhome...

 

When Nancy emails me and asks for the status of the new motorhome, it kinda tells me that I had better write another Blog about this...

So, the bottom line has not changed...the Credit Union wants their name as the Lien Holder on the Title before releasing the $$$, the RV Dealer wants the $$$ before they release the motorhome to us EVEN THOUGH we are the registered owner with the DMV, all the dealer paperwork shows we are the owner, so...here we sit.  BUT there has been progress...

We received our Florida License Plate today...and our Vehicle Registration!!!   Wait, if we have those, shouldn't the Title show the Credit Union as the Lien Holder?  Well, it does (as of yesterday) AND it doesn't.  

Although the Title shows the Credit Union as the Lien Holder, it still lacks the words ACTIVE where above it says, PENDING DEALER TRANSACTION.   Florida Law is very clear that it is the DEALER who has to file the title ELECTRONICALLY as soon as possible.  Here is a portion of a memo sent to all dealers about four years ago:

"This important message is regarding your dealership’s responsibility to process transactions promptly.

Section 319.23(6)(a), Florida Statutes, provides that in the case of the sale of a motor vehicle or mobile home by a licensed dealer to a general purchaser, the certificate of title must be obtained in the name of the purchaser by the dealer upon application signed by the purchaser, and in each other case such certificate must be obtained by the purchaser."

So today, after communication with the bank when I came to realize that the "PENDING DEALER TRANSACTION" was important, I sent an email near the end of today's business hours, asking them to PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE!!! file this electronically ASAP, and sent a link to the full memo from the State of Florida to dealers, and a PDF of the Title showing the PENDING DEALER TRANSACTION on it.

I am sure that there are times that the amount of paperwork these businesses have to do is enormous.  However...the amount of patience that WE HAVE is about to run out. 

UPDATE:  As of 8 pm, I checked the Florida Title Search and our Electronic Title now shows ACTIVE!  I think we should have our new baby home with us by Wednesday!!!

Rained on our Parade

 

Did I ever tell y'all that just don't like dealing with certain type of situations?  With the purchase of the new Motorhome Van, we have had THE GREATEST salesperson, which is why I was so glad we did not have to deal with a new dealership.  Well, all was falling into place until I called the loan officer at our credit union to see how everything was sitting.  He said that the loan had been fully funded, and all should be fine.  I asked if he had talked to the business manager at the dealership to let him know the status...of which he said, "No, but I would be glad to call him."   About 30 minutes later, we get "THE CALL".  The first business manager was off, so he talked to an equal level manager who happened to have worked there about 10 years longer.  He insisted that they will not release the vehicle until all money had been received by them.  The Credit Union won't release the funds until Title has them listed as a Lien Holder.  What can we do now???

Johnny Cash Water Tower, Kinglsand, AR  2022

Although we felt like we were receiving the fall out from the vandalism at the Johnny Cash Water Tower, I suggested that perhaps we could still go over there today (Tuesday, a good 90 minute drive) and sign all the paper work, pay the rest of the down payment, and go through orientation and final walk through. Then, go home without the motorhome so that even though it technically is now ours, they would have not released custody so technically they can register the title with the credit union as the lien holder and still be within "Company Guidelines".  The credit union will FedEx the check.  Then we could take possession of the motorhome.  

Many a young lad has seen who can 'do it' the best

The "P" war would be over between the two companies, and we would get our new travel home.  Moments later the 'seasoned' business manager called and layed out the above scenario as if "he" came up with it and asked me if that would work out...I said "OK".  Marcia did not sleep well at all, I slept a bit better than normal. (what's up with that???)  So as we finished signing our life away, well...at least the next 5 years of our lives, the guy says, "Would you like us to deliver the motorhome when it is cleared?"   Yes, we said...that will save another trip through all that traffic.  THAT even pacified Marcia, so all is well...yet we are still motorhomeless...

      

Since we have done so much RVing, the orientation centered a lot on the electronics.  That is going to be a learning ordeal even for this techie.  And talk about advancements in driving...it has Lane Keep Assist.  Turn it on, and start getting out of your lane, it was beep, it will pull you back, and it will spit on your face just in case you fell asleep.  A GPS which shows up on the dash and on the large screen between driver and passenger.  If you need a rest area, just push a button and say "Rest Area" and it will show you a list of upcoming rest areas.  It is going to take awhile to learn all this monster can do...but the good thing is, you don't have to activated each component. 

As of now, our fingers and paws and crossed that we get our new motorhome van REAL SOON.

Missing Our Motorhome(s) and Introducing . . .

 

Our First Motorhome, 40' American Eagle

It has been 3 full months (and a few days) since we have been "Motorhomeless".  Oh, the pain we feel...  WHY does it hurt is something I explore today...not listed in any order...

Second Home 

All of our motorhomes (3 of them) have been a second home to us.  It is nice to be on the road and yet feel like you are still at home.  The hardest part is when it breaks and you find yourself in a "Motel" for a few nights.  One thing that is very nice about a motorhome is...if you don't like your neighbors, move on...which we have done a few times.

Our Second Motorhome, 32' Jayco Melbourne

Safety Valve to escape Hurricanes

When you live in Hurricane Country, you like having an escape.  "IF" a hurricane comes to close to where you live, but does not wipe out your home, you could be faced with living with no electricity for a prolong period of time.  Frequently after a Hurricane passes, the temps climb back up into the 90's with Humidity also in the 90's which equals HELL!  Having a motorhome means you can leave before it hits, come back when it is all safe again, and all the while, living in the comfort of your second home.

Visiting Friends and Family

When we travel, we frequently are visiting friends and family.  Not only has it allowed us to spend countless months in Sacramento lending a helping hand with mom and when he was alive, dad...but visiting children, brothers, sisters, cousins, and long-time friends.  We will be always grateful for the ability to help with mom and dad, to be there when dad passed from this life to the next, but Marcia was able to visit her hometown area and see cousins and other relatives and a friend or two throughout the country also.  

Visiting Interesting Places

When we got married back in 2011, Marcia would have never imagined that she would visit places like Alaska, National Parks and National Monuments too numerous to name.  Yet some of our special memories also lay in areas around Truckee, Quincy, Gold Beach, Lake Pleasant and many others where it was just peaceful and kicked back areas.  One of the last library conferences I attended was out west, and Marcia and I drove, by car, there and back.  On the way back, on the spur of the moment, we drove over to Moab and drove through Arches National Park for a quick 90 minute visit.  As we left she had me call mom and the excitement in her voice as she told hereeverything we saw.  She had NO IDEA what laid in store for her over the next 13 years!

Our Third Motorhome, 28' Dynamax Isata

Interesting People

There have been so many interesting people we have met along this path.  Fellow bloggers, some of whom we 'wish' we knew they were in the same area, sometimes the same parking lot, as us and we did not connect.  If I start naming names, I would leave someone out...so I will leave it at that.  There were also some interesting people that we never knew until either we pulled up next to them, or they to us.  Here are just a few special ones.

Maxine from Ontario:  Maxine is/was this lady in her late 80's.  She pulled a small trailer with her little Toyota SUV or Wagon.  She drives up, pulling that trailer, from Ontario each year to Seward, where she parks in the large boondocking campground there.  She was such a wonderful neighbor.  This is where Skruffy got real sick, and we had to cut out and get to Soldotna where my next 'special person' saved Skruffy's life.

Veterinarian, Dr. Marie “Meezie” Hermansen:  One of the most important people we met because it was HER that saved Skruffy's life...her and prayers.  I wrote a blog post about her which I will refer you too...it says it all.  Skruffy’s Doctor -- Born to Fish, Vet by Choice, and a Storyteller

Unnamed Traveler:  This lady I met walking the dogs at a KOA doggie park.  I never did catch her name, but she was a talker and had stories to tell.  Her husband was a Captain in the L.A. Fire Department.  They traveled for over ten years in a large Class A gas motorhome….visited every state, every Canadian province, and even a few states in Mexico.  Then her husband got a hernia…had complications….died from it.  She downsized, and goes out for months at a time alone, despite her age of mid-70's to mid-80's…with her two dogs. She told me this story of how her husband made her change a flat tire in the Class A.  As a firefighter, he wanted her to be able to be self sufficient.  So she got that side up on motorhome's levelers so the tire was up off the ground.  He taught her how to use her leverage, along with the proper tools, to get the lugs off...how to get the tire off...how to get the good tire back on.  He, in the meanwhile, was down under the motorhome just checking things out when a CHP Officer drives up and approaches her to help.  "No," she says, "If I did that, my husband would have to kill you..."  That startled the officer until he hears this laughter coming from under the motorhome.  Her husband slides out, introduces them as his wife continues to do the work, and he explains the situation, which the officer just nods and walks back to his car and takes off.  She told me that she was around 60 when this took place...what a lady she was.

Small World Folks:  Amazing how many times we met someone who either lived by one of us, or lived by and know some of the same people we know.  Like while in Alaska we stayed at a RV Park for an extended time while Skruffy was sick.  We had her out on "furlough", which turned out to be permanent, and while sitting out in the sun one day a lady and her young daughter came over.  The lady asked if her daughter could pet the dog...I explained that she was sick, and the lady already knew all about it.  I asked where she was from, she said Blue Springs Missouri...right where my cousin Casey lived, right where mom and dad use to live, and come to find out she went to the same church as mom, dad and Cassie and her dad and my dad were good friends.  Or the time at Devils Tower when I see a couple with Arkansas license plates.  I dropped by say hello and see where they were from...it was White Hall...where my kids were raised, where one of the Libraries I was over is located (both used the library all the time) and their home was less than a mile from the house my kids were raised in.  Another took place in Bakersfield while we stayed at the Orange Grove RV Park.  Here is how this encounter went:

Asked this guy in the new truck with older 5th wheel where he was from…

    “Sacramento” he said.
    “We are headed there…” I said.  “Left Florida Wednesday night.”  Got that look….
    “Wow, that is some traveling!”
    “Yep…headed for my sister’s backyard in Citrus Heights…”
    “Well, that is really where I am from…where at in Citrus Heights?”
    “Off Antelope…” as I described the area.
    “Heck, that is just down the street from me…I live right by the old Van Marin homestead….”

We talked some more…but what a small small world this is.  He ate at the restaurants I worked at, he knew of Arny’s Corvette Body Shop on Auburn, etc. etc.  But he did not know Arny, although they both have lived within 1/2 mile of each other for years and years.
 
The Motorhomes

Above you can see the three different Motorhomes we have owned.  The American Eagle we had from November 2011 to May 2013.  After a major breakdown, and realizing that I was not enjoying driving such a large vehicle, we stepped down to the 32' Jayco Melbourne.  We had that Motorhome from June 2013 till March 2014 when it was caught up in a RV Storage Fire which turned her to ahses.  A short month later we purchased the Dynamax Isata, which we kept from April 2014 until February 2024 when we donated it.  We put nearly 100,000 miles on that Motorhome, and she was a good one.  So, where does that leave us?

Introducing the 2024 Thor Sequence 20L

Yesterday we put a $5k down payment on this Silver Sequence 20L.  It is on a Ram Promaster 21' Chassis, and if everything goes right, and it should, we bring her home on Tuesday.  This is the first Motorhome that we did not pay cash for...but we will put more than 50% down and expect to pay it off in three years (it is a five year loan through our Credit Union).  Will plan to take more pictures and post more about it next week.  The memories will continue...see you all down the road somewhere, some place.